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  • #25643
    Karl Bates
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    Running a high quality USB stick from a uTrack 24 with the latest firmware installed, just on playback only, with around 12 audio tracks, using a foot switch or the start key on the front panel is giving a 5 second delay from the time start is pushed until audio is heard. Is there anyway of giving instant playback without this delay?

    #25645
    Laszlo
    Keymaster

    The instant playback at the moment is not possible because of the pre-recording. With the next firmware update we will allow to the users to disable pre-recording, that’s really useful for the users who want to use the uTrack24 like a player device. In this case when the pre-recording disabled the uTrack can pre-load the song, for the instant playback.

    #25656
    Laszlo
    Keymaster

    [quote=”captaink” post=5]Running a high quality USB stick from a uTrack 24 with the latest firmware installed, just on playback only, with around 12 audio tracks, using a foot switch or the start key on the front panel is giving a 5 second delay from the time start is pushed until audio is heard. Is there anyway of giving instant playback without this delay?[/quote]

    The new firmware already up.
    Now you can disable the pre-recording, in this case you will have pre-load and instant play.
    Please check the release note for the details.

    #25761
    Karl Bates
    Participant

    Great, yes all done a works like a treat. Thanks L

    #26301
    Larry
    Participant

    I’m having problems with the multi-track songs run together quicker? Or is there any way of giving instant playback without delay? Even when I set the multi-track songs with no delay I still see a 3 second clock icon on my iPad when using the uRemote and by the time one song finishes the next one has to preload as it takes about 5 to 6 seconds before that song plays. I really wouldn’t like to edit all the songs in one multi track as I like them separate for on the fly requests. Are there any future updates that might make the multi-track songs preload or buffer sooner so it would load within one second after the other finishes?
    Please let me know if I’m missing anything that could do this.
    Thanks ?
    PS The pre-recording has been disabled and I do have the latest firmware 2746.

    #26302
    Laszlo
    Keymaster

    You are right for the preloading you need to disable the pre-recoding. But the uTrack24 able to preload the next song only if the two song (current and next song) samplerate are same.

    #26303
    Karl Bates
    Participant

    I know that the firmware upgrade solved the issue of the delay relating to starting songs direct from the UTrack, however I’m not sure if this would also relate when using the URemote. It’s possible that this is down to latency between the iPad and the UTrack.

    #26304
    Chetan
    Participant

    A few things to note if you want to playback songs without delay.

    1. All songs should have same sample rate, bit depth and the number of channels.
    2. All the songs should be placed in a playlist with “no delay” option.
    3. No midi file should be associated with the multitrack song

    Multitrack songs (not in playlist) are always played in “Single Mode”. In this case the next song is not preloaded while the current song is being played.

    In a playlist though, the next song is preloaded while a song is being played, if the parameters mentioned above are met.

    Hope this helps.

    #26309
    Larry
    Participant

    Thanks for the replies! And it does help a lot. So far all my tracks are the same sample rate, bit depth (4100Hz and 16 bit just a simple CD quality). But my channels do change now and then depending on the song. So, would it help if I made dummy blank .wav tracks to make it all the same amount?
    In the play list I have them all selected as No Delay. I haven’t used URemote as a player yet I just went on my iPad to check out the software and have noticed the “clock” icon showing a 3 second count between each song. Is there a way to make the icon clock say 0 seconds? Do you think that using the URemote app would slow down the delay option? I thought it only monitored or controlled the U24 via Wi-Fi.
    So, by just making all the tracks the same number amount that will solve the delay problem I been having? That seems like the only thing that I have since all the other settings are set as (digichetan) mentioned in the last reply. Thanks again for your help on this ?:)

    #26310
    Larry
    Participant

    One other thing I just noticed in the U24 user manual is that it said this:

    NOTE: Playback will run until the longest file(midi or audio) is completed. Gapless playback of the
    next song does not happen in playlist, if it has a midi file associated with it.

    And I do use MIDI files in every song so is this what it’s saying that it will have a longer delay because of the MIDI files/tracks?

    #26314
    Chetan
    Participant

    Hi Lilpyro,

    You are right. When a midi file is associated with a multitrack song, the preloading of the next song inside a playlist is not done.

    #26317
    Larry
    Participant

    Oh…bummer :unsure: So, is it possible to have it upgraded to over look the MIDI preloading delay? Or is that wishful thinking….Thanks for your reply B)

    #26319
    Chetan
    Participant

    Hi Lilpyro,

    I don’t quite understand what you mean by “have it upgraded”.

    If you mean a future firmware version of the uTrack24, maybe it is a possibility. The midi playback engine at present can handle only one file at a time. It might be possible to change it so that it could pre-load the next midi file, but this is not on our roadmap at the moment.

    #26320
    Larry
    Participant

    That’s what I meant…sorry…yes, a future firmware of the u24 to have the MIDI playback engine that could pre-load the next MIDI file for continue playing without the 5 second delay between each song. But, thanks for your info and help on this. I just wanted to make sure I didn’t miss something on the u24 delay function. I will cope with the delay for now. B)

    #26482
    marco
    Participant

    [quote=”lilpyro” post=753]That’s what I meant…sorry…yes, a future firmware of the u24 to have the MIDI playback engine that could pre-load the next MIDI file for continue playing without the 5 second delay between each song. But, thanks for your info and help on this. I just wanted to make sure I didn’t miss something on the u24 delay function. I will cope with the delay for now. B)[/quote]

    I agree!!! I have the same problem: I have more than 120 songs and each one has his own midi for program changes and lights control!
    I use the uTrack for playback only and I absolutely need midi file preload feature!
    I hope this would be the next firmware update must!

    #26484
    Larry
    Participant

    Would the uTrack-X32 play continuous multi-track songs with a MIDI track less than the 5 second delay?[quote=”giusfredi” post=916][quote=”lilpyro” post=753]That’s what I meant…sorry…yes, a future firmware of the u24 to have the MIDI playback engine that could pre-load the next MIDI file for continue playing without the 5 second delay between each song. But, thanks for your info and help on this. I just wanted to make sure I didn’t miss something on the u24 delay function. I will cope with the delay for now. B)[/quote]

    I agree!!! I have the same problem: I have more than 120 songs and each one has his own midi for program changes and lights control!
    I use the uTrack for playback only and I absolutely need midi file preload feature!
    I hope this would be the next firmware update must![/quote]

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