29th July 2019 at 22:16 #55225
After having the same issue myself and not finding any clear explanation on how to maintain sync with the midi file for automation I thought I would post this for anyone else that is trying to have the LP-16 send midi commands that are in sync with the tracks.
I did find one post indicating the bpm in your DAW be set to 120 when creating the midi file. That is incorrect; it need to be set to 100 BPM.
So… The work flow might be something like this.
You have a project in your DAW of choice and you will need to export the desired tracks as .wav files to create songs in the UTool software.
Before doing so, either save that project as a copy and name it something like
My Song Automationor create a new project with the exported .wav files. Whatever makes the most sense.
In the new project, set the BPM to 100. That’s the important part.
Then add your midi track to the project and place your midi events at the desired locations throughout the song.
Export the midi track. This will be different in every DAW, for example in Sonar Platinum you just drag the midi track to a folder in the media view.
I also make a folder called
stagingwhere there is a folder for each song and where I drop my audio and midi files. This makes it really easy to import into the UTool software.
Following this, your midi file will be in sync with your audio!
I’m using the LP-16 for backing tracks and changing presets and snapshots on a Line6 HX-Effects, channels on a Synergy SYN-2 and a Boss VE-100 for vocals. Soon I’ll be adding automated lights! So rad!2nd August 2019 at 13:42 #55520Richard KadeřábekParticipant
I consider your post a bit confusing, why to set tempo of a project to 100bpm?
song is 120BPM, record all audio tracks at this tempo, create several midi tracks for what you want (lights control, guitar patch changes, audio digital mixer automation, mixing console channel mutes…) in this project (at 120BPM as well)
1. export audio to wav files
2. export all midi tracks into 1 MIDI file
You need to set the same export range for audio as well as for midi tracks.
It work even when you have a variable tempo track enabled, no reason to set it to 100 bpm.12th August 2019 at 14:12 #56113
Interesting, I certainly tried that as it’s how you would expect it to work but the midi would never be in sync with the audio. Apparently I’m not the only one to experience the midi and audio not syncing properly which is why I posted the solution. Perhaps Cubase is exporting something extra in the midi file? Believe me, I spent a lot of time trying as you suggested but no dice. Clearly there was a necessary reason to do this in my case. Regardless, it worked!12th August 2019 at 16:27 #56131
Just to add, the issue is clearly how different DAWs export the midi file, not a fault of the LP-16. I suppose that why when people ran into the issue in the past the responses here were less than helpful…14th September 2020 at 20:41 #115328Pierre-Yves DParticipant
This problem is surely affecting ABLETON LIVE users because midi file are exported from Ableton with minimum midi information : they lack SET TEMPO Midi message info messages, and channels information as well.
As an ableton user here ‘s my method to have all midi sync to audio track at any tempo
-> export midi clip (clips in my case as I use several channels)
-> load into a midi dedicated applciation like AriaMaestosa (free and easy to use)
-> bundle in one track by copy pasting all midi clip in one track that will be exported as an SMF0.
-> Manually edit the channel
-> Last but not least : Define the tempo of the song (note that tempo information is not contained in the intial midi clip exported from Ableton.)
A quick tool I use to check the content of the midi file (tempo, channels etc..) is called “midi kit”.
I end up with 100% sync Midi clips with audio, as they intially are when creating in Ableton.
I hope this will help some users and let you win some time ; )
Pierre-Yves19th December 2020 at 15:50 #128009Agustín VolpeParticipant
How do you set the midi channel of a midi track un the lp-16?
I need to control an hx stomp, and another effects floorboard, separately.20th December 2020 at 20:55 #128265Jeroen SchlamanParticipant
The MIDI channels are defined in the MIDI files itself.
This is typically done in the DAW you’re creating them with. Say you have two separate MIDI tracks, one for each device. You program the MIDI messages separately on both tracks and assign the MIDI channel you want. The LP16 just reads the MIDI file and takes plays them back on the assigned channels.
One MIDI file can contain messages for multiple channels (1-16).
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