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  • 1st March 2018 at 16:11 #29483
    Todd Moore
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    I’ve been using my android tablet for backing tracks, creating a stereo file split two ways, each channel performing different tasks.

    I wanted to upgrade to a player that would allow me to add midi to the playback to run the light show and do some patch changing for guitar effects and the like.

    When I found the LP-16, I impulse bought it, because it did everything I wanted and I like that I’ll be able to split my backing tracks into more refined stems for individual EQing and live compressing of individual parts. I’m excited to get started moving my tracks into the new format.

    I’ve downloaded the utool program and have done a couple of sample mixes. I think I mostly understand the workflow, but I just want to nail down a few things before I get started.

    I assume that if I match the output from my DAW with the input settings of Utool (sample rate and resolution), no conversions are made to the .wav files? If this is true, could an updated track file be moved to the drive with the correct name without needed to go through the utool program? Is there any downside to this?

    Is the import simply a way to bring the audio files from a USB device back to your computer to perform future editing in a DAW?
    Does this do anything to the files rather than copy them?

    What are the best ways to avoid problems with midi syncing to the audio track? There won’t be any midi instrument data in these sequences. Only bank, patch and controller changes. on 3 or 4 different midi channels. I assume if I output a midi file with the same tempo and length as my wave files everything will sync up just fine. Any experiences here?

    I assume that I’ll be making many edits to my midi files once my audio files are all set and ready to go. Are there any issues with just replacing the midi file on the usb drive manually with a file of the same name in the correct directory, or does it have to go through utool?

    Thank you!

    1st March 2018 at 18:55 #29484
    Laszlo
    Keymaster

    Hi,

    [quote=”tamoore” post=3766]I assume that if I match the output from my DAW with the input settings of Utool (sample rate and resolution), no conversions are made to the .wav files?[/quote]
    If the song sample rate set to the same sample rate like the source file there’s no conversion.

    [quote=”tamoore” post=3766]If this is true, could an updated track file be moved to the drive with the correct name without needed to go through the utool program? Is there any downside to this?[/quote]
    Yes that’s right. If the track manually named properly shouldn’t be a problem if you replace the file. Downside: wrong naming or wrong sample rate etc can make the song not working properly.

    [quote=”tamoore” post=3766]
    Is the import simply a way to bring the audio files from a USB device back to your computer to perform future editing in a DAW?
    Does this do anything to the files rather than copy them?[/quote]
    If you create the songs with uTool you should have the source files on your computer, then if you make any edit on the source file you can replace easily and re-export to the USB drive. But yes in the LP-16 the uTool basically just name the files properly and copy to the USB drive (if the sample rate and bit depth are the same)

    [quote=”tamoore” post=3766]
    What are the best ways to avoid problems with midi syncing to the audio track? There won’t be any midi instrument data in these sequences. Only bank, patch and controller changes. on 3 or 4 different midi channels. I assume if I output a midi file with the same tempo and length as my wave files everything will sync up just fine. Any experiences here?[/quote]
    In this case the uTool can be helpful. If the midi song shorter than the audio shouldn’t be a problem but if the midi longer than the audio the midi will not played out properly. If you create the song in uTool it will extend the audio file to the midi file length. (but you can do that manually as well by adding empty audio at the end of one of the wav files.

    [quote=”tamoore” post=3766]
    I assume that I’ll be making many edits to my midi files once my audio files are all set and ready to go. Are there any issues with just replacing the midi file on the usb drive manually with a file of the same name in the correct directory, or does it have to go through utool?[/quote]
    See above. So if you name it properly shouldn’t be a problem to replace the file

    6th March 2018 at 21:38 #29489
    Todd Moore
    Participant

    Just to help anyone else who reads this in the future,
    I didn’t have any luck replacing the midi file directly on the disk. If I changed the midi file directly on the disk, it would still play the original midi file I used when I exported the song via UTOOL. I could only update the MIDI by exporting it again, pointing to the updated MIDI file I wanted to use. I assume it must embed that midi file into the song.dat file, perhaps?

    7th March 2018 at 11:26 #29493
    Laszlo
    Keymaster

    Hi,

    How do you mean that? If you replace the midi file the player cannot play the file which does not exist on the drive…
    Are you sure you have replaced the file? Please try the following: Delete the file from the song folder and copy the new file to the song folder.

    7th March 2018 at 15:11 #29499
    Todd Moore
    Participant

    I’ll do some more testing soon, but I’m quite sure I deleted the existing midi, and put an updated on in its place in the song folder, and the LP16 still played the previous version of the midi file.

    When exported that same midi file to the song using utool, it played the corrected version.

    I’ll have more opportunities to test this out over the coming weeks, but I think this is accurate.

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