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  • #27308
    Christophe ChenChristophe Chen
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    Hello all,
    I’m new to the LP16, I’d like to know how you both are working the output level of your tracks ?
    Do you manage to work output level of each tracks to aim the same level (0 or -1db for example)
    or do you let the same level set in your DAW Mixer when you set the song?

    I use Cubase to record tracks.

    My goal is to avoid keeping touching the Mixing desk during the show…
    I guess that if I have the same level on each tracks for each songs, when I set the soundcheck, it would be aproaximatly good?

    Inputs are welcome.

    #27550
    Les BolenLes Bolen
    Participant

    [quote=”Lonerock” post=1723]Hello all,
    I’m new to the LP16, I’d like to know how you both are working the output level of your tracks ?
    Do you manage to work output level of each tracks to aim the same level (0 or -1db for example)
    or do you let the same level set in your DAW Mixer when you set the song?

    I use Cubase to record tracks.

    My goal is to avoid keeping touching the Mixing desk during the show…
    I guess that if I have the same level on each tracks for each songs, when I set the soundcheck, it would be aproaximatly good?

    Inputs are welcome.[/quote]

    Hello LoneRock,

    I use the mixer feature in the main editor which works well in a -db fashion on each individual track. ie., if you’ve your drums on two mono tracks (dual stereo) on tracks one and two and you find they’re a little loud in the mix compared to all the other outputs, just drop the faders down 2 or 3 db, then save your mixer settings and then the song, then output the song again to the USB stick, etc…

    Hope this helps,
    Les

    #27570
    Alix PAREAlix PARE
    Participant

    That’s an awful time-lose function…
    I can’t figure Cymatic don’t implement any internal mixer function. In rehearsal conditions, this is a big problem… :angry:
    Please Cymatic, we need a mixer function in real time internal to the LP-16… :unsure:

    #27571
    Laszlo .Laszlo
    Keymaster

    The coming uTool version will have multitrack output feature. With this you’ll able to connect your LP-16 in interface mode were you can use the multitrack output from the uTool before you export the song to the drive. With this you’ll able to change the mixer parameters on the fly. If you made the proper mixer settings you just need to export to the drive.

    #27572
    Alix PAREAlix PARE
    Participant

    [quote=”Laszlo” post=1984]The coming uTool version will have multitrack output feature. With this you’ll able to connect your LP-16 in interface mode were you can use the multitrack output from the uTool before you export the song to the drive. With this you’ll able to change the mixer parameters on the fly. If you made the proper mixer settings you just need to export to the drive.[/quote]
    Thank you for answer.
    It looks like the needing to have a computer near LP-16 during rehearsals, isn’t it?
    I’d rather have an internal mixer to tweak my tracks and write those settings in memory of the LP-16. Do you plan to implement this feature?

    #27573
    Laszlo .Laszlo
    Keymaster

    As the LP-16 has very limited controls and limited display size/resolution and not that much CPU power left in this case unfortunately there’s not that much chance to implement that into the LP-16.
    During rehearsal with a notebook which has much better display/controls it will provide a really fast access for changing mixer parameters.

    #27582
    Alix PAREAlix PARE
    Participant

    [quote=”Laszlo” post=1986]As the LP-16 has very limited controls and limited display size/resolution and not that much CPU power left in this case unfortunately there’s not that much chance to implement that into the LP-16.
    During rehearsal with a notebook which has much better display/controls it will provide a really fast access for changing mixer parameters.[/quote]
    I’m not sure to understand.
    Do you tell me that I can use LP-16 as audiocard in real time with the USB stick containing audio tracks plugged into my laptop?
    In this case, does it mean I can use MIXER from uTool in real time? And if yes, each tracks still there own physical output?

    #27583
    Laszlo .Laszlo
    Keymaster

    There’s two different way to use the LP-16 with the new uTool.
    1. You have the content in uTool on your PC/MAC, you can connect the LP-16 as USB interface then you can use each individual output to set up the mixer levels etc. once you ready then you can export the content to the drive.
    2. You have a PC where you have no the source files but you have the USB drive with the content. You need to install the uTool on the PC/MAC connect the LP-16 as USB interface, connect the USB drive with the content to your MAC/PC. Use the “target editor” to set up the mixer levels and playlist order on the drive.

    In both two cases you can use the LP-16 multichannel output to set up the levels on each output like where the LP-16 playing back the song from the USB drive.

    #27585
    Alix PAREAlix PARE
    Participant

    [quote=”Laszlo” post=1996]There’s two different way to use the LP-16 with the new uTool.[/quote]
    My actual version of uTool display “BETA” and the number version is 2.0..034.
    If I try to install the 1.1.46 version available on your website, my unzip app return me an error message. The archive looks corrupted. I downloaded it 3 times with the same issue…
    Is there any other version of uTool?

    #27587
    Laszlo .Laszlo
    Keymaster

    I am talking about the coming uTool version. v2.0.04x
    What OS do you have?
    What is the error message?

    Could you please try to download in your browser with “save link as” or “save as” ?

    #27591
    Alix PAREAlix PARE
    Participant

    [quote=”Laszlo” post=2000]I am talking about the coming uTool version. v2.0.04x[/quote]
    Oh, sorry. Thaks for precisions.

    [quote=”Laszlo” post=2000]What OS do you have?[/quote]
    I’m using Windows 8.1 64bits.

    [quote=”Laszlo” post=2000]What is the error message?[/quote]
    I’m using 7ZIP:
    “uTool_Installer_1.1.46_Win.zip couldn’t open as an archive”
    Not sure about the translation because my OS is in French language and of course, my 7ZIP too.

    [quote=”Laszlo” post=2000]Could you please try to download in your browser with “save link as” or “save as” ?[/quote]
    That’s the way I do.
    In fact, I think there’s a problem on your website.
    After logged in, I go to https://cymaticaudio.com/products/recorders-players/live-player-lp16
    Then clic on “Download” tab.
    If I clic directly on the “Windows logo” to download the file, I have a 404 error message.
    The link shown by my Firefox is https://cymaticaudio.com/images/downloads/drivers_and_firmware/uTool_Installer_1.1.46_Win.zip
    But If I download it via “right-clic > Save target link as” I have a *.zip file but it’s only 2Ko.

    Can you please tell us a date for availability of your new uTool?

    #27592
    audioworksHUaudioworksHU
    Participant

    [quote=”Spawn-X” post=2004]After logged in, I go to https://cymaticaudio.com/products/recorders-players/live-player-lp16
    Then clic on “Download” tab.
    If I clic directly on the “Windows logo” to download the file, I have a 404 error message.
    The link shown by my Firefox is https://cymaticaudio.com/images/downloads/drivers_and_firmware/uTool_Installer_1.1.46_Win.zip
    But If I download it via “right-clic > Save target link as” I have a *.zip file but it’s only 2Ko.[/quote]

    I confirm the uTool v1.1.46 link on LP-16 product page tab does not work.

    To get the latest uTool use the following method:
    Log In with your user ID > Support Tab > Downloads > Software Tools > uTool > uTool v1.1.47 / uTool v2.0.34

    #27593
    Alix PAREAlix PARE
    Participant

    That’s ok now for 1.1.47, but it looks really bugged, isn’t it?
    I’m so disappointed by changes in the GUI compared to the 2.0.034 beta version…
    Also, this v1.1.47 has crashed two times a hour. 🙁

    #27594
    Alix PAREAlix PARE
    Participant

    [quote=”Spawn-X” post=2006]That’s ok now for 1.1.47, but it looks really bugged, isn’t it?[/quote]
    Actually, if I’m browsing location containing my audio files for one multitrack song, uTool can see only one audio file… :whistle:
    Settings are ok, but I can’t hear any sound while trying to play the lonely audio file shown in the GUI (Multitrack Song Settings > Clic on the play button in the audiofile lane)… re :whistle:
    Same issue in the mixer view… re-re :whistle:
    Aoutch… Looks like I must still the Beta version until new one available… :S

    #27623
    RustyRusty
    Participant

    Can you please give us an estimate of when the 2.0.04 will be available…We have a big stage gig coming up and I would love to get real time levels edited at rehearsal ASAP so the FOH engineer doesn’t just sit on our tracks mix and not correct volume of tracks correctly. :unsure: please oh please say later today!! :woohoo:

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